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Title: The New Jamit 4
Post by: szabcsee on December 03, 2012, 11:56:53 am
Hi Guys!

As probably we are in the same shoes I thought it would be wise to work out together our contingency plan of how to make the best out of this situation that we have been left alone with our loved Jamit job board which bleeds from many wounds and would badly require future development.

My job board is lingojob.com it's a language job board in Hungary also has been integrated to jobg8.

I have talked to my developer to check the status of jamit and see how much is the cost of further improvements.

The status is that jamit needs several security fixes, it does not follow standards, has spaghetti code, probably performance-wise also not very good, the template system is chaotic and need to build a template from scratch. Need to get the URL rewrite fixed as it still does not work with characters with accents. This is just a quick overview I don't know much about what is in the depth.

Possible solutions:

1. Another job board: I have talked to smart job boards and they say they have a very good engine with good plugins but all cost a lot and the migration of jamit to smart is around 2-300 dollars. All together with a decent template (which I can build myself) it would cost around a 1000 dollars to migrate to smart job board

2. New job board: Currently I'm looking into possibilities to develop a new job board from scratch with the same features of jamit, latest technologies etc. Probably that would be a fortune but It would be just as I want.

3. Continue with Jamit: I think it does require deeper analysis but it could be a solution to continue with Jamit and gradually rewrite it from scratch, keep what works, add new features etc.

4. Other alternatives: Investigate for similar job boards on the market maybe there are good solutions there.

Please do add your ideas, plans and let's find the best solution together to solve this situation with the abandoned Jamit.

What do you think? ???


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on December 04, 2012, 08:41:48 am
Hi szabcsee, Thanks for your effort and analysis.

Even I'm involved with Jamit Job board for one of my website, I feel it is better to hire some developers, and pool in required money from Jamit users and develope a new version which is compatible for latest PHP and MySql and also has good security.

If Smart job board, has a good development + Active development, Migrating from JJB to Smart Job board is a good option, if the url structure that we already have can be maintained. Also need to migrate the users their profile (Resume with customer fields).

Developing a new job board from scratch will take lot of effort and money.

EDIT: I looked at Smart Job board, it looks very promising and has lot of features, can you confirm it takes only 200-300$? for migration from jjb? as I see SmartJobboard license it self costs 400+ $.

Let us get some good JJB users and see what they say


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Amjad on December 04, 2012, 07:49:59 pm
Hello Guys,
As szabcsee said we all suffering from the death of JJB ,the options mentioned by szabcsee are good but first,migrating to SJB is a risky option cuz we are using different encoding ,second there is a risk that SJB may stop supporting their software as Adam did,re developing JJB maybe the good option .

im currently working on converting the encoding to UTF8 and adding few features to the software.i hope to finish from these issues very soon .

i want ask you dear about the any security issues you know about the latest version,also what version of php and mysql does the latest JJB version is compatible?
note: im still using 3.53 version and its run under PHP Version 5.3.1 .
what php and mysql versions should the software run under?



Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on December 05, 2012, 05:58:39 am
Dear Amjad, Glad you are contributing to JJB, Hope you will share your work with us, Latest php is 5.4 but 5.3 is just fine as this version will be supported for quite some time before 5.4 becomes the standard, but it is better to have a more robust and secure version with enhanced features.

I suggest we all put some money and hire a good Sr. Developer, so that some of the bugs/errors can be eliminated and continue using JJB, as SJB is more expensive 400+ $ for owned license and 99$ for yearly update plus 49$ monthly for Technical support, and Every plugin has some price.. But SJB I think has some good team, without the team it is difficult to develop so many features and maintain them, if it is a single developer then the end result of sjb can be predicted.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: dabesa on December 05, 2012, 02:06:05 pm
Hi guys,

Personally I'm switching to SmartJobBoard.
I'm working on a migration tool from Jamit, who's potentially interested?

Cheers


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on December 06, 2012, 05:32:02 am
Hi dabesa, Please let me know the cost of migration and also if the migration. As I see the SJB is bit expensive, but if they provide constant updates and continue the development it is ok to pay 99$ a year.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: CompuDave on December 06, 2012, 06:11:14 am
I have been running SmartJobBoard on a small test site for the last year and am very happy with it. I will be switching over to SJB in a few weeks. The problem is that the two systems are not compatible so migrating to the new software will mean starting from scratch.

I would be very interested in the migration tool dabesa, please keep me informed.

Dave.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: avisdjamal on December 21, 2012, 02:38:51 pm
I have a license  the SJB and I need the migration tool too. Please remind me if you want share or sale that script


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: wclang on December 27, 2012, 08:26:25 pm
Is it just me or does SmartJobBoard seem like a very heavily modified version of Jamit Job Board? I poked around the front-end and back-end and it seems awfully similar just modified a lot. Am I wrong on this; I ask because I think it would be a huge disservice to Adam that someone modified the code and is reselling it as their own (then again he did make this open source now...)

Oh well, not sure what I'm gonna do... I may just stick with Jamit since it works great on my host and its so easy customize.

-wclang


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on January 05, 2013, 05:22:37 pm
I am in whatever you guys go for count me in to chip in. If someone could write a converter for Smartjobboard or start fresh and import the latest version to where I would not lose 26000 memberships that would be awesome.

I can be contacted directly at [email protected]


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: fujipadam on January 21, 2013, 05:02:39 pm
It seems quite a bit more expensive than jamit and still doesn't use php5 - so it's not object oriented. How has the performance been for SJB? does it seem to handle traffic well?

Fuji


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on January 22, 2013, 06:40:01 am
I know couple of websites that run on drupal, and handle good traffic, one website gets lot of traffic. Now I'm sure there must be a way to implement this? is any one interested in having a look at them? I will send the urls via pm?

Just check this drupal simple job theme: themesnap.com/theme-demos/job-now/
Edit: Also have a look at appthemes.com/themes/jobroller/
and its plugins: marketplace.appthemes.com/plugins/


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on January 30, 2013, 12:29:46 am
Its been fun and I would like to thank the folks associated with and behind the scenes at Jamit for providing the assistance they have over the last 6 years. I have decided to just pay the money and have everything migrated to a new platform.

Thanks

Frank


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on January 30, 2013, 06:26:09 am
SecureAspects, What platform have you decided? Let us know how it all goes?


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on January 30, 2013, 12:35:43 pm
I went with smartjobboard, and they said they have done several imports  and converts from Jamit. We will see how it goes, so far I have been quoted up to $800 for the convert and this does not include the price of the software.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on January 30, 2013, 12:47:35 pm
If they have already converted from jamit, then it should be fairly easy, 800$ is bit expensive for my liking.
We need to import users/resume/custom fields and resume uploaded a import script will do the job, probably if one write such script he/she will make some good money.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: CompuDave on January 30, 2013, 01:15:51 pm
I previously paid them to convert my site from Jamit to SJB but they were not successful. The database was moved over but no data was linked (eg: employer profiles were not linked to employer and cv's were not linked to candidate accounts).
I suggest you ask them who they "successfully" migrated a Jamit site for before paying for the work. It is possible that they have done this successfully since 2010 when I did mine but at that price I would want a guarantee that they can do it successfully. They charged me $250 back then for the database transfer and another $250 for a design transfer.
As a result of the unsuccessful transfer of data I have kept my site running on Jamit.
I do have another site which is running SJB and I must say it is a very good piece of software. As soon as I am able to transfer all data successfully, i will be moving my Jamit site over to SJB.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on January 30, 2013, 01:42:21 pm
I would not be opposed to scrapping the deal with smartjobboard and paying to continue to develop Jamit. The problems I have with Smartjobboard is that there is no opt out in the mailings, news letter or job alerts. I can not afford any lengthy downtime or problems with the transfer so I appreciate your input, that is a lot of money and I will tell them to install it and get it transferred and when I am happy with it I will be glad to pay them.  Either way I would like to see Jamit continued, lets get serious about this and if we pool our resources for development we should be able to get a killer updated software out of this.

I have $1500 I will commit to further development of Jamit! Anyone else, if we pool our resources we should get one hell of a developer for the money.

I would suggest that those that contribute are issued a license key to prevent free distribution.



Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Amjad on January 30, 2013, 11:31:06 pm
me too i would like see jamit updated and continues as its now ,we successfully converting the encoing to UTF-8 and currently working on launching the new site after that we will work customzing it and maybe updating the code


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on January 31, 2013, 07:15:04 am
It is a good Idea to pool in some money and find a senior php developer who can enhance the already available functionalists and make the Jamit compatible with the latest PHP and MySQL versions.

To start with I suggest, every one to 1. find out the bugs/errors that exist in the current Jamit and make a list
2. Make a list of new features that needed for the new version.

After this we have to find a developer who can make these changes for a fixed agreeable amount.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on January 31, 2013, 04:34:37 pm
Thats great, since you are a mod can you start a new thread for bug fixes and requested mods? I will start by making a list of wants.  Thanks


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on January 31, 2013, 06:32:06 pm
I started a thread on updates and wants here: http://forum.jamit.com/index.php?topic=1450.0

Lets get this going.... ;)


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: szabcsee on February 11, 2013, 07:17:40 pm
Wow, $800 sounds a bit pricey for a migration without the software included. So far I also heard great things about smart job board but their price is a bit too much for me.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: pipingdesigners on April 04, 2013, 04:06:35 am
I'm probably coming in on this a bit late, but I'm running Jamit on my site, I like it, but the lack of support is killing me ... i'm not a programmer, and I'm a very basic level web designer, so when there is an issue, I end up digging around the files using a mixture of trial and error and google searches ... the results are not always great.

If there were a group getting together to fund an upgrade, and a user group established, I'd be happy to kick in a few bucks.

Where does everyone currently get help?


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on April 04, 2013, 06:10:23 pm
Right here,. sorry to say it seems Adam has completely abandoned us.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: pipingdesigners on April 07, 2013, 04:23:18 am
OK, so I'm in the right place ... good!

Tin hats on ... I'll be coming at ya with questions!


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: steve on April 19, 2013, 10:13:11 pm
I've been working on a solution for transferring my database over to Smart Job Board. I'll probably get SJB this weekend and run a dummy site and test everything out. I expect it to go well.

Right now, without seeing the database structure for SJB, I have been able to create a new database that uses the import feature in the admin panel that can be found on the SJB demo site.

It will only import the job seeker and employer data, but for the most part that is all that is needed to kick start it. After I purchase SJB I can get in the database and figure out how to convert the rest of the necessary data.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on April 25, 2013, 06:41:27 am
Let us know how the migration goes,. by the way are they offering any discount? 539$ is little expensive.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: steve on May 08, 2013, 01:58:51 am
UPDATE:

I had high hopes of converting my database. I have a program from a while back that takes a comma delimited feed and will write all the information to a webpage. Well, I treated my database like a data feed. I saved it as an excel file and then setup a new file as the output which should be the webpage. Instead I outputted it to a new database or excel file. I was able to output the data in the correct order to match the SJB user export file. I then took the new file and imported it. It seemed to import fine... all 3,900 user accounts. I then went into some of the accounts and started clicking around. I was getting fatal errors. The user accounts I created through the normal sign-up link all worked fine. The user accounts that I imported weren't working too well. I couldn't update the profiles etc....

I decided after almost a week of trial and error to just dump the idea. There is no telling what other problems might occur with the accounts. I decided that I would rather the user take a minute and sign up again than to have them leave in frustration thinking the site was broken and never come back.

I deleted the whole job site and the database and re-installed it from the beginning. I didn't want to take a chance that I may have caused some problems that would pop up in the future.

Smartjobboard looks good and is worth the extra money if you have the traffic to support it.

Good luck to all.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on May 08, 2013, 09:27:09 am
I recently contacted MindCrackers Solutions here is what they replied:

Quote
Greetings from Solution India!
We would like to thank you for contacting us for your database migration script requirements.
It will be really a Great pleasure for us to work with you and provide you High Quality Solutions in Cost Effective Prices.

Imran, we have strong hands on Jamit Job Board and Smart Job Board.
We can develop a database migration script between both platform.
The rough estimation for developing this script is:

Cost of Module: $350
Time Duration: 4-5 Days

I will try and work out a deal with them to migrate to SJB. (mindcrackers.com/)


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: fujipadam on May 16, 2013, 01:50:52 pm
Imran - do you think mindcrackers will help maintain jamit apart from offering migrations?


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on May 19, 2013, 04:56:35 pm
I did not speak with them regarding maintaining jamit, but they certainly will help in migrating.
I'm going to migrate to SJB in couple of months after making things suitable for migration, as we all know jamit is going to die slowly without updates/maintenance.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on June 17, 2013, 10:35:38 am
I spoke with them and never heard back from sydney, so still looking for a solution I will be waiting on your results with the migration.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on June 19, 2013, 10:18:16 am
Today spoke with the sales lady she said they have updated sjb to enhance the import feature specially from jamit.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on June 20, 2013, 12:21:03 am
Thats great news look forward to switching over I had to disable some of my plugins from Collosol mind I guess he no longer offer services.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on June 24, 2013, 05:44:00 pm
I purchased and installed SJB 4.1, Here some of pitfalls that I noticed, with a critical mind.
1) Not well optimized for SEO
2) Searched string and search result pages does not have option to include search title, Keywords and description. This will result in duplicate content/title/description/keywords pages.
3) Even the employer/company page has seo deficiency
4) It needs a plugin for SEO
5) The urls for company/job browse/ search result pages can be changed bu it needs to be edited in template _System files also.

But the system is very good has lot of very important features and I'm excited about it, It will take maybe couple of months for me to set it up properly for my liking.

Edit: Actually SJB is much easier to modify, I started reading the Tutorials and forum, it is easy to customise. I spoke a bit early above.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on July 03, 2013, 12:26:07 am
I am right there with you and have already modified mine to meet my needs the best I can, waiting on the db migration now.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: nsak on July 09, 2013, 07:15:05 am
I strongly suggest smart job board to those who dont have large data to migrate. There is just no comparison; Jamit was a good moment. Of old times

best! Nikos


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on July 10, 2013, 03:07:52 am
Can you please suggest some job board softwares ? I see many people referring to smartjobboard - People who migrated please share your experience

Thanks for your help


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on July 11, 2013, 02:11:54 am
I do really appreciate if some one can share their experience of migrating to SmartJobBoard - I called them up they said they have external development team that can migrate Jamit - Did any one use them? Also, any missing features that you have in Jamit but dont' have it in SmartJobBoard ?


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on July 11, 2013, 09:06:25 am
I do really appreciate if some one can share their experience of migrating to SmartJobBoard - I called them up they said they have external development team that can migrate Jamit - Did any one use them? Also, any missing features that you have in Jamit but dont' have it in SmartJobBoard ?

I'm in process of migrating, but before that I want to set up things properly,.

Almost all features are there you need to setup that way, need to customise to match your current installation.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: CompuDave on July 11, 2013, 11:38:27 am
SmartJobBoard is definitely the best value for money solution available right now. I have been running a small site on SJB (version 3.4) for over a year now and am busy experimenting with the new SJB version 4.1 on a demo site.

I am very happy with the SJB software.

I have not migrated my Jamit site over to SJB yet mainly because I have a large database and am still not 100% certain if it is possible. Has anyone else migrated a Jamit database over to SJB successfully?


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on July 12, 2013, 01:30:19 am
CompuDave/Imran - Thanks a lot for sharing your experience.

I am planning to speak to developers at SJB for migration, I will keep you posted on how it goes


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on July 12, 2013, 05:48:49 pm
SJB is in the process of migrating my site from Jamit to SJB, so far it has been a pleasure dealing with Sidney. I will keep everyone updated when the migration is complete and I have had time to check it out. I will let you all know in about 2 weeks how it went



Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: CompuDave on July 12, 2013, 06:20:47 pm
Thanks for the feedback SecureAspects What site are you migrating and how big is your database?

Be very interested to know how it goes.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on August 24, 2013, 01:52:01 pm
The migration is underway and will be complete in a few more weeks, my DB is about 500mb with close to 30k users and so far I think SJB is a very good solution to our problems. Sidney is also very responsive to my questions and needs to get this migration done, even after she has my money ;). I will do another followup once the migration is complete. So far my experience with Smart Job Board has been spot on and they have done what they said they would.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on August 25, 2013, 07:10:32 am
Glad you are getting it done with sjb team, please share your experience after the migration, I have a larger db then yours and I also want to move to SJB before that I will try it myself hopefully if it works well I can save some money over it :)


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on August 29, 2013, 11:20:20 pm
SecureAspects,

How is your migration going ? Are you dealing with Perception Systems as referred by Smart Job Board?

Please share your experience so it helps everyone here.

Thanks


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on October 16, 2013, 01:35:48 am
SecureAspect & Every one,

Please share your experience of migration to Smart Job Board, I know they will refer to precision systems for customization - Can you please share your experience with SJB & Precision Systems ?

Your experience will really help people in my boat.

Thanks a lot for reading this


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on October 16, 2013, 02:13:36 am
Is any one using MYSQL 5.5 Version for Jamit ?

It looks like Jamit version 3.4.8 doesn't work, Please share your experience


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on October 16, 2013, 11:54:55 am
With MySql 5.5 if you try to edit Forum Fields from Admin it throws MYSQL Errors - Even current Jamit Demo version throws MYSQL errors when you try to edit Forum Fields from Admin (eg: Resume Forum Fields, etc) - Please share your experience


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: kingmax on December 16, 2013, 12:40:05 pm
I dont know if this is the right posting to do it in.. but we give it a shot.

We also would like to migrate our site to SJB or something. On SJB we had a demo account for testing.. They said it was possible to migrate the database.. However we couldnt get it to work.

We hope its possible in the near future to get our database over to another system and/or someone wants to help us with that.
We did not bought SJB yet, because we did not get it to work.. Hope this will change soon.. or that Jamit wil renew.

--== Freddy ==--


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on December 18, 2013, 10:25:27 pm
I DID IT! OK I migrated to smartjobboard and so far its been going really good. The support has been wonderful and their developers seems to be on the ball. I think they got all the kinks worked out with my migration for any future jamit migrations. The main work of the work falls on the user to get everything setup and some fields would not directly translate. The PayPal and authorize.net payment gateways work like a dream. IN the development I just had them do the entire site in ssl and seems to be working well. This migration was nerve racking for me since it is my only source of income but I am very glad I made the transition to smartjobboard. Highly recommended as an alternative replacement to Jamit. If you are gonna do this work with Sidney He or she has been great to work with.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on December 19, 2013, 06:11:13 am
How much did they charge for this full migration?


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: SecureAspects on December 20, 2013, 02:06:04 am
I think it was around $600 for basic and then to add all the fields I think another $150. This is not a turn key solution and I have so far about 3 days of 17 hours into getting the payments and resumes sorted for users. One thing to look out for is when the jobs were migrated we had approximately 7000 that were expired, some by 5 years that were active and users applied to them.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: Imran on December 20, 2013, 05:46:08 am
What is important to import is only the user data, job data can remain in the same directory/suba-domain where it is already, just redirect the users to new platform, so that users who want to signup/login will use SJB login system in new location and old jobs a re still displayed effectively getting google traffic, till new job board slowly gets it self going and becomes active.

This is how I'm planning to do what I want is only migrate the active users not all users.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: jobraj on January 13, 2014, 01:22:38 pm
Jamit.com Domain is expiring in less than 90 days - If anyone is in touch with Adam - Please remind him.


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: pipingdesigners on May 30, 2014, 05:00:25 am
Hi  SecureAspects,

I've taken a look at your jobs page, and it looks great.

I've pretty much had it with Jamit at this point, it's giving me nothing but issues at the moment, particularly since I switched to a new server.

Now that yours has been running for a few months, how are you finding it on the admin end?
Does it need much upkeep?

Would it be possible to post a quick review of your experience of SJB, from installation -> migration -> current use.
Their site looks good, but I'd like to hear from someone who's gone through the migration aspect of things.

Thanks,

Anton


Title: Re: The New Jamit 4
Post by: szabcsee on June 06, 2014, 07:29:56 pm
Hello Guys,

It's been long since this thread was active and I just wanted to catch up with you on the Jamit story. I have recently migrated my good old Jamit site to a new server, still running with jobg8 and producing a small amount every month but now I want to move on and develop a bit. I think Jamit is a good base and it would be great to get a new job board. Is there anyone who is interested?